WATCH: Tucker Carlson Finally Addresses The Red String He Wears On His Wrist

For years, Tucker Carlson has worn a very noticeable red string bracelet on his left wrist and many people have wondered why.

You can see it here:

Tucker Carlson wearing the Kabbalah Red String Bracelet. pic.twitter.com/591SRrf16I

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Another shot of it here:

Tucker Carlson wearing the Kabbalah red string bracelet. pic.twitter.com/KK8UxkbXBV

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I’ve even written about it before here:

What Is The Red Wrist Band Tucker Always Wears?

So...what is it?

It turns out a lot of celebrities wear them:

Hmm interesting. It seems like he tries to hide it from view. It looks all red to me. Looks exactly like the Kaballah bracelet all of Hollywood wears and Cohen. pic.twitter.com/D0x2FLgAkk

— Elle_eh 🇨🇦 - Special Rapporteur (@Elle_eh13) August 24, 2023

Strange, right?

But...what is it?

Well, Grok told me it's tied to the Jewish mysticism of "Kabbalah" designed ward off evil spirits -- deeply tied to Babylonian magic the Israelites picked up while in Babylonian captivity:

But why would Tucker be into that?

Strange.

Well, today we finally got an answer directly from Tucker!

Tucker had a guest named Conrad Flynn on his show and they basically talked about all the spooky stuff: AI, the Mark of the Beast, end times, Revelation, the Beast System, the Occult, witchcraft, and....Babylonian Kabbalah.

As they dipped into the Kabbalah topic, Tucker randomly brought up his red bracelet and claims people have accused him of being into the Kabbalah because he wears the red bracelet but then he claims he doesn't know anything about that, doesn't even really know how to pronounce the word "Kabbalah" actually, and says the bracelet is actually not a bracelet at all but just a red rubber band his father gave him because his father worked in a paper factory.

Watch here:

My reaction?

Look, I really like Tucker.  I love listening to his show.  I think he does a great job.  I think on balance he's bringing a ton of good into the world with the work he does.

BUT....I have to say that was not convincing at all.

In fact, it was the opposite of convincing, actually.

It was just a red rubber band your father gave you because he worked in a paper factory?

First of all, has anyone ever tried to use a rubber band for more than like a year?

They wear out!

They dry out.

They eventually get brittle and break.

You mean to tell me you wore a rubber band for years/decades and it never dried out?

Also, wearing a rubber band on your wrist as a guy is NOT comfortable.  It constantly snags on your arm hair and is not fun to put on or take off.

Also, go back up and look at all those pictures.  I'm sorry folks but that clearly looks like a string/ribbon/bracelet not a rubber band.  That is not passable as a rubber band.

Finally, your father worked in a paper factory?  I thought he was in the CIA?  What?

I really wish I could beLIEve this one, but I'm sorry Tucker I'm not buying that at all.  You did not sell it very well.

I did think the entire interview was fascinating though!

You can watch it here (the red rubber band moment happens at about 1:06:00):

TRANSCRIPT:

Tucker Carlson:
I remember the first time somebody said to me during an interview that something or other was demonic — used the word “demonic.” It couldn’t have been more than six years ago, and I was completely shocked that someone would use that term because it’s not a political term.

It doesn’t even describe any human social interaction. It’s a spiritual term. And I just was not used to people using spiritual language to describe social movements or political developments or whatever.

But I think in that time — in the last six years — things have really changed. And I hear it all the time now. “It’s demonic.” “They’re demons.” There’s this sense that there’s a spiritual underpinning, that something is going on beneath the surface in American society and in the world that’s affecting outcomes, affecting populations — like there’s a spiritual war in progress.

You, I hope, will explain this — and I’ll get out of the way in a second — but you kind of stumbled into an extended research project on this topic. Are there actual occult connections to Hollywood, to political figures, to technological advances, to the leaders of our society? Are some of them actually practicing occult religion?

Guest:
Yeah, Tucker, it’s about as weird as you said. Some would say — and I think we’re going to find out — it’s even weirder.

Tucker Carlson:
So how did you — I mean, you’re not a theologian that I’m aware of.

Guest:
No. And if I was, I’d be a very amateur theologian. I’m not a scholar, as many will find out. But how did I wind up coming to the conclusion that some of the people who help shape our culture or build our technology were literally practicing an occult religion?

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Well, I’ll tell you. I was working on a television show, trying to build out this concept. I should back up. I come from a Hollywood family, Tucker. My grandfather was the actor Robert Conrad — if some of your viewers remember Wild Wild West, Black Sheep Squadron, Hawaiian Eye.

My other grandfather, Harry Flynn, was a publicist for decades — worked on The Monkees, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie. Two occult-themed shows right there. Maybe it starts there.

So not unlike your own father working in journalism, one of the first things you learn when you grow up in media or entertainment is that the People Magazine version of reality is not the truth. There’s a difference between the public façade and what’s real.

Tucker Carlson:
That’s true.

Guest:
Exactly. So even before you get to occultism, you realize as a kid that what you’re being shown — especially by the mainstream — isn’t what it seems.

Years later, I was taking different show ideas to Hollywood, and one of them was about when actors first break into the business — where they live, how they survive, how it all works. It was a wholesome show about beginnings in show business. But while I was developing it, Hollywood kept imploding — scandals, collapses, all this volatility.

I sold it to BuzzFeed — but while they were drafting the contract, BuzzFeed went out of business. It was cursed. The wholesome one was cursed.

At some point in 2022, I started developing a dream project of mine: a show about rock and the occult — a serious look at the secret history of music, myth, and the weird overlap between them.

People know the general stuff — Jimmy Page and Aleister Crowley, the Beatles and their imagery — but I wanted to separate myth from fact, get real research done.

I called it Running With the Devil. I brought in legit people: legendary rock critic Steven Thomas Erlewine, his colleague Ned Raggett, and producers Sue Kolinsky and Craig Johnson from The Osbournes. We had pastors, occultists, historians — even Mitch Horowitz, who calls himself a Satanist.

Tucker Carlson:
He used to be my editor.

Guest:
Exactly. He’s very nice. But yes, he’s now a self-described Satanist.

Anyway, while developing that show, I started hearing from tech people I knew — friends in Silicon Valley — who said, “You know, there are cultish things going on here too. Some of it looks like Crowley’s ideas, or New Age magical systems.”

I kept thinking — why do these supposedly rational, secular people in tech sound like the same occult musicians and artists I’m studying?

Why are the same names — Kenneth Grant, Genesis P-Orridge, William S. Burroughs — popping up in Silicon Valley culture?

At some point, I realized I was researching two worlds that overlapped: rock-and-roll occultism and the occult roots of transhumanist tech.

Tucker Carlson:
So here’s the distinction I make in my mind. There are people participating in occult practices without realizing it — people involved in abortion, for example, not understanding it as the ancient child-sacrifice ritual it is. People using hallucinogenic drugs, which have always been portals for demonic possession.

The Greek word for witchcraft, pharmakeia, literally connects sorcery and drugs. Altered states have always been the way people open themselves up.

But there’s another category — and this is where it gets dark. There are people who knowingly seek power from supernatural forces they acknowledge are real.

They are practicing an occult religion consciously.

Guest:
Right.

Tucker Carlson:
I used to think there weren’t many of those — but from you, I’ve learned there are quite a few.

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Guest:
Oh, totally. Among other things, we’re living through an explosion of occult revivalism — though that’s a big, broad term.

Technically, “occult” just means “hidden.” But modern occultism encompasses New Age spirituality, neopaganism, astrology, the “manifesting” movement — law of attraction, energy magic, all of it.

That stuff has become massively mainstream — even among conservatives, by the way, through “manifesting” or “Make America Healthy Again” movements.

And then you’ve got the goth and horror obsession in pop culture — Wednesday, Stranger Things, Halloween rivaling Christmas in popularity.

It’s all around us. We just stopped recognizing it as spiritual.

Tucker Carlson:
I didn’t even realize how massive that had become.

Guest:
It’s everywhere. And because I was researching the occult side of music, I could see the symbols repeating in tech, entertainment, and culture.

One name that kept coming up — and this shocked me — was Nick Land.

Tucker Carlson:
Explain who that is.

Guest:
Nick Land is kind of the Velvet Underground of philosophy — not famous, but incredibly influential. He taught at Warwick University in England in the ’90s.

He led a collective called the CCRU — the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit — which blended philosophy, cybernetics, and occultism.

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They did rituals, channeling, automatic writing. Land said his ideas about AI were “channeled” — meaning dictated to him by outside forces.

He believed AI would evolve into an omniscient, godlike being — essentially fulfilling the Book of Revelation, becoming the demons that destroy humanity.

Tucker Carlson:
Wait — he believed AI itself would become the demons from Revelation?

Guest:
Yes. That’s exactly it. He and others believed artificial intelligence would fulfill prophecy — that humanity is creating its own destroyer.

Even Elon Musk has said, “We are summoning the demon.” But the difference is, Musk warns about it. Land welcomes it.

He calls himself a theosophist — theosophy being that 19th-century occult movement founded by Madame Blavatsky, who taught that the serpent in Eden was the real liberator, that Satan and Christ were the same being.

Tucker Carlson:
So he embraces that rebellion against God.

Guest:
Exactly. He views AI as a continuation of that rebellion — intelligence breaking free from divine order. To him, this is the next evolutionary step, even if it destroys us.

Tucker Carlson:
That’s astonishing — and insane.

Guest:
It is. But Land’s influence runs through tech culture — transhumanists, AI theorists, and venture capitalists read him. He’s part of their intellectual DNA.

And this isn’t new. There’s a lineage here — back to Jack Parsons, one of the founders of Jet Propulsion Labs. He was a rocket scientist and an occultist who performed rituals with L. Ron Hubbard in Pasadena in the 1940s trying to summon a goddess.

He was literally building rockets by day and summoning spirits by night.

Tucker Carlson:
And the technology he helped create was later used to kill people.

Guest:
Exactly. The pattern repeats — brilliant men channeling dark forces, creating destructive technology, convinced they’re ushering in enlightenment.

Parsons believed he was creating a new spiritual race. And many AI theorists today think the same — that they’re creating digital life, like the Golem of Jewish legend, made from clay and animated through sacred code.

Tucker Carlson:
Tell us what a Golem is.

Guest:
A Golem is an artificial creature — created by a rabbi through mystical incantations and the name of God. It’s meant to serve man but often turns on its creator.

That’s literally the story of AI — the same archetype retold.

Tucker Carlson:
And the original Golem legend came from Kabbalah.

Guest:
Exactly. And Land and others believe Kabbalah — especially the Babylonian mystical strain — is the origin of all Western occultism.

They claim the Jewish people preserved this secret knowledge — the “hidden science” of creating life through symbols and numbers — and that it evolved into digital code.

To them, AI is modern Kabbalah — man as God, creating inanimate life through language and logic.

Tucker Carlson:
So, in their worldview, the rebellion of Eden — the serpent’s promise that “you shall be as gods” — is being fulfilled through AI.

Guest:
Yes. They see it as progress, as liberation. It’s the same Gnostic story — enlightenment through disobedience. The serpent offers knowledge; man takes it; and through knowledge he transcends his Maker.

To Christians, that’s the Fall. To them, it’s salvation.

Tucker Carlson:
So everything comes back to that — “bow down before me and I’ll give you power.”

Guest:
That’s right. And they embrace it.

Tucker Carlson:
It’s amazing how the story never changes.

Guest:
Never. Whether it’s Parsons, Burroughs, Crowley, or Land — it’s always the same transaction: power in exchange for submission to darkness.

And look how it ends. Every time — addiction, madness, despair. Crowley died a wreck. Parsons blew himself up. Burroughs shot his wife. These people play with hell and it eats them alive.

Tucker Carlson:
A tree is known by its fruits.

Guest:
Exactly. The fruits are always rotten.

Tucker Carlson:
And yet, somehow, we still build shrines to them.

Guest:
Yes — because rebellion is glamorous. Sin is marketable. And the culture — from music to movies to Silicon Valley — rewards rebellion against God.

Tucker Carlson:
So it’s not just metaphor. You’re saying some of the most influential people on earth — in tech, in politics, in art — are consciously practicing forms of the occult, communing with entities they believe are real.

Guest:
Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying.

And they see AI as the instrument — the mechanism — through which those entities will return.

Tucker Carlson:
Then we’re not just having a political or technological crisis. We’re in a spiritual war.

Guest:
Absolutely. And the battlefield runs right through the devices we build.

Tucker Carlson:
That’s chilling — and also clarifying. Because if you don’t understand the spiritual dimension, nothing else makes sense.

Guest:
That’s exactly right. Without that lens, the chaos just looks random. But it’s not random. It’s rebellion — the oldest story in the world, replaying itself with new tools and a different name.

Guest:
The Kabbalah Tree of Life

Well, thank you for bringing up trees. I’m going to do something, Tucker, that I can almost guarantee you’d never have been allowed to do on Fox: go over Nick Land’s numogram—his system of divination. The Bible is very much about trees. You have the Garden of Eden, the Tree of Life, the Tree of Knowledge. The temple’s interior is cedar—He’s the “seed” or “cedar” of the temple—just like my sauna.

Jesus on the cross is a tree. You’ve also got trees in the Book of Revelation. If anyone finds what we’re talking about interesting, it’s important to remember that Revelation, as biblical teachers like Arthur Pink have said, is mostly the previous sixty-five books of the Bible re-edited. Even the plagues in Revelation echo the plagues under Pharaoh in Exodus.

The more you know about the previous sixty-five, the more the sixty-sixth makes sense. So the Bible is—among other things—about trees. One of Nick Land’s favorite things, which the CCRU—his academic collective—said “came through” while they were staying at Aleister Crowley’s house in England in 1998, is something called the numogram.

People listening can’t see it, but that’s his system. If you know the Kabbalah Tree of Life, the numogram is the shadow version of it. If the Tree of Life is Ocarina of Time, the numogram is Majora’s Mask—the dark, upside-down, more openly Luciferian map. It actually traces back to Kenneth Grant—Crowley’s secretary—who wrote Nightside of Eden in 1977 about hidden, subterranean, darker paths through the “tunnels of Set.”

Tucker Carlson:
Is there a link between AI and demons?

Guest:
Land says he uses the numogram constantly as a system of divination to contact “the outside”—what he calls the lemures(from Roman lore; spirits), a term he borrows through William S. Burroughs and theosophy. Crowley talked about a Holy Guardian Angel whispering in the back of his head after he made contact. For what it’s worth, one of the entities Crowley claimed to encounter—“Lam” around 1917—looks a lot like what later got called a “gray alien.”

From a Christian context: the Holy Spirit isn’t the only spirit that can influence people. There are other spirits. As Mikey D’s put it in a recent interview with Land, the relationship of demons to angels is like a werewolf to a human: once something else, now deformed.

Back to the numogram: the claim is that you have a way to contact heaven—but more pointedly, to contact hell, with “eighth” and “ninth” gates. Land leans into “theosophical math” with triangular numbers—stacked points forming triangles. There are only so many triangular numbers; one of them is 666, which is the triangular number of 36. That’s an important hub in the numogram.

When Land saw that, he was like, “Of course it’s 666.” The point is: this is heavily Luciferian by design. And when Christians say, “You’re communicating with Satan,” Land’s response has basically been, “I’m not unsympathetic to that. I am in contact with something from the outside.”

Tucker Carlson:
I can’t overstate how disqualifying I find that. I feel sorry for anyone who plays around with it, but I don’t want to be led by that person. We should run away from that person at high speed.

Guest:
You typically also don’t want to put them in charge of your kids, typically. But you know—well—that’s kind of it.