Patrick Bet-David may have just released his most important and powerful interview ever….
This one was an absolute rollercoaster in so many ways.
It begins with Bet-David basically reading a disclaimer on what you’re about to watch in the interview, and I almost feel I need to give a similar disclaimer here.
This woman, Anneke Lucas, who claims to be a sex trafficking survivor, absolutely drops a bunch of bombshells including naming the David Rockefeller and the Rothschilds as running a worldwide sex trafficking network and specifically those men of sex trafficking and abusing her. Those are her allegations.
But then Bet-David does what only he can do….he presses her on some details, like why she claims she didn’t recognize David Rockefeller until decades later, she claims she had no idea who he was. He was just “David” despite living in New York City and David Rockefeller being quite well known (have you heard of Rockefeller Center?).
Things become contentious.
Then Anneke says there is a living H0llywood starlet who was in the ring (actually she says many were) but she specifically starts talking about one who is still alive and extremely well known.
Bet-David asks here why she won’t name her and asks if it’s because she’s still alive.
Things get VERY tense.
At several points, she seems to side with her abusers, which is well known as Stockholm Syndrome, but things get awkward again when Bet-David pushes her on it.
It’s a complete rollercoaster of an interview, and I’d love to hear what you think.
Do you trust her?
Is she going to blow the lid off this whole worldwide network?
Why won’t she name more? Do more? Should she? These are all questions Bet-David presses her on.
Could this evil cabal finally be brought down through exposure?
Could she lead the way?
They FALL in Fall?
A January of Justice?
These are all things we’ve heard.
Is it starting?
Bet-David brings up the hundreds of thousands of missing kids in the USA multiple times in this interview, and it’s impossible to not notice the Donald J. Trump signature on the wall behind Anneke.
This one really has everything and I really want to know what you think.
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You can get her book on Amazon here:
FULL INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT:
Patrick Bet-David: I want to start off by saying this is a very disturbing and uncomfortable interview to watch. If you’re watching this with your kids—they’re 12, 10, 14 years old—this is not the one for them. This is 18 and above. If later on you feel comfortable as a parent to have them watch it, then do it.
You’re going to see every emotion in here. There was extreme tension in certain moments—tears, laughter, tension, debate. I had to bring my booker, Tony, in because some of the accusations made needed clarification. Tony came in here because she shared some names she’s never shared before.
Two of the names she mentioned were individuals she was trafficked to as a child. One of them, she claims, was a powerful billionaire, someone you know by name. She described attending Bilderberg event parties in Europe and returning with reports for this billionaire after her abusers exploited her at 9, 10, 11 years old.
What that information was used for—your imagination can take it where it will. The reason I wanted to have this conversation is not because it’s a podcast people will eagerly anticipate. It’s because this is something we have to talk about.
In America, there are 359,000 missing children as of 2022, according to the FBI. What more do we need to do? Sit around and not talk about it? Some might say, “It’s too disturbing.” But someone’s child is missing, and we must bring light to this.
I feel it’s our responsibility. Every once in a while, I do interviews like this because I believe we have to address these things. Many of the claims she made were shocking—Prime Ministers, billionaires. She was pressed on some of these claims, and I encourage you to do your own due diligence as you listen to this.
It’s not easy to talk about stories like this. It takes immense courage to come forward. While I believe in “innocent until proven guilty,” I also believe it’s essential to research and understand for yourself. If you’re someone as interested in this issue as I am, I think this interview will resonate with you.
Having said that, here’s my conversation with Anneke Lucas.
Patrick Bet-David: They wanted to control… everyone.
Patrick Bet-David: Did you ever meet him?
Anneke Lucas: Meet him? Oh, yeah.
Patrick Bet-David: What was he like?
Anneke Lucas: Horrendous.
Patrick Bet-David: Unpack it.
Anneke Lucas: He loved being behind the scenes, creating this elite sex slave who was going to make him millions. It’s a $150 billion-a-year industry. This is a global elite network. It’s not just a network of friends. There’s infighting among them, too.
Patrick Bet-David: Mind control training at 9 years old?
Anneke Lucas: Yeah.
Patrick Bet-David: Why did they take you there? Was it politically related, business, or celebrity?
Anneke Lucas: Celebrity.
Patrick Bet-David: You’ve never talked about this.
Anneke Lucas: I’ve never said his name. I can’t just flop these names out.
Patrick Bet-David: Is this someone we’d know?
Anneke Lucas: Definitely.
Patrick Bet-David: Alive or dead?
Anneke Lucas: I didn’t think this was going to be the kind of conversation we’d have.
Patrick Bet-David: For the audience, I want to clarify. You told Tony you wanted to name names.
Anneke Lucas: No, I didn’t say that at all.
Patrick Bet-David: What was your training like?
Anneke Lucas: That week, I was sleeping with men and reporting on their weaknesses or sexual preferences. It was all part of their control.
Patrick Bet-David: Did you ever think you would make it through?
Anneke Lucas: I feel I wasn’t supposed to. I had a near-death experience.
Patrick Bet-David: And you came back.
Anneke Lucas: Yes.
Patrick Bet-David: Your story is one of survival.
Anneke Lucas: Thank you.
Patrick Bet-David: Why would they need to train you for this?
Anneke Lucas: He had plans for me. He wanted me to know how to behave in elite environments, to know how to eat, recognize good clothes, and be comfortable in those spaces.
Patrick Bet-David: So you were being groomed for a specific role?
Anneke Lucas: Exactly. He wanted to make me into an elite sex slave, famous in France. With that fame, I was meant to attract the most powerful men in the world.
Patrick Bet-David: And then report back on them?
Anneke Lucas: Yes. It was all part of his plan.
Patrick Bet-David: Did you ever rebel?
Anneke Lucas: Yes. After I rebelled, I was immediately tortured, thrown in a cage, and retrained for days. It was brutal.
Patrick Bet-David: Who was involved in that?
Anneke Lucas: Hans Harmsen was there. He was in charge of the mind control training.
Patrick Bet-David: Who was Hans Harmsen?
Anneke Lucas: He was a bureaucrat in Nazi Germany, responsible for forced sterilizations and eugenics experiments. He later became a key figure in my mind control training, a part of David Rockefeller’s special project.
Patrick Bet-David: How did you meet David Rockefeller?
Anneke Lucas: I didn’t know it was him at the time. I only realized it later when I saw his face in 2017, the year he died.
Patrick Bet-David: So you didn’t know who he was until decades later?
Anneke Lucas: Exactly. I knew him as David. They never used his full name around me.
Patrick Bet-David: What was he like?
Anneke Lucas: He was a pedophile. There are many survivors who were abused by him. He had this excitement when he was around children. It’s like he was trying to revive something dead inside himself.
Patrick Bet-David: Where did this training take place?
Anneke Lucas: In several of his estates—Westchester, New York City, and Maine. I was taken to a Rothschild property at one point as well. Rockefeller sought their permission to proceed with his plans for me.
Patrick Bet-David: What kind of plans?
Anneke Lucas: He wanted to create an elite sex slave who could infiltrate powerful circles and report back to him.
Patrick Bet-David: Why would someone like him, with all his wealth, do that?
Anneke Lucas: He was driven by his perversions and a desire for control. It wasn’t about money; it was about power.
Patrick Bet-David: What about the people around him—his staff?
Anneke Lucas: They acted like everything was normal, even when they saw me in bed with him. They treated me very nicely, as if nothing was wrong.
Patrick Bet-David: And they never questioned it?
Anneke Lucas: No. They were either controlled themselves or carefully selected for their loyalty.
Patrick Bet-David: You mentioned you were taken to Germany. What happened there?
Anneke Lucas: I was sent to a facility in Heidelberg for mind control training. It was precise and scientific, designed to create a high-functioning tool for their purposes.
Patrick Bet-David: What kind of training?
Anneke Lucas: It was based on torture. They’d strangle me until I fainted, forcing my intuition to sharpen. They wanted me to predict people’s behaviors and weaknesses without reasoning.
Patrick Bet-David: Who orchestrated this?
Anneke Lucas: David Rockefeller and Hans Harmsen. I was one of Rockefeller’s special projects.
Patrick Bet-David: When you came across Hans Harmsen’s photo later in life, what happened?
Anneke Lucas: It triggered a programmed reaction. His face was tied to my memories of being strangled and tortured. I had to work through years of healing, meditation, and yoga to undo the physical and emotional trauma tied to his image.
Patrick Bet-David: What about the training itself?
Anneke Lucas: It was all about dissociation. Trauma splits the mind, creating separate parts or “alters” that could be programmed to perform specific tasks. They used my trauma to control me and make me compliant.
Patrick Bet-David: You mentioned being trafficked internationally. What was your experience in the U.S.?
Anneke Lucas: In the summer of 1972, I spent a month being trafficked in the United States by a powerful billionaire. He trained me in his homes in Westchester, New York City, and Maine, preparing me for life among the elite.
Patrick Bet-David: Was this training purely about social etiquette?
Anneke Lucas: No, it included sexual training as well. He wanted me to be comfortable in elite environments while also serving his perverse needs.
Patrick Bet-David: Did you interact with others in his circle?
Anneke Lucas: Yes. I was taken to meet a Rothschild on an island in the northeastern U.S. The billionaire sought their approval for the plans he had for me.
Patrick Bet-David: What plans?
Anneke Lucas: He wanted to create an elite sex slave who could become famous, infiltrate powerful circles, and gather information for him.
Patrick Bet-David: You mentioned rituals. What were they?
Anneke Lucas: These were satanic rituals, staged to demonstrate loyalty to their network. They were horrific.
Patrick Bet-David: You said you eventually rebelled. What happened then?
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