Elon Musk went on Lex Fridman’s podcast yesterday and made history….
How?
By recording an EIGHT HOUR podcast!
Yes, you read that correctly.
Actually, 8 hours and 37 minutes long!
Holy cow!
If you want to watch it, I’ll post the link to the entire video down below.
But here’s the part where he discusses the ideal role he’d like to have in a Trump Administration — and whether he would take it:
ELON MUSK: "I have discussed with Donald Trump the idea of a government efficiency commission and I would be willing to be part of that commission."
— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) August 3, 2024
And here’s the full interview.
Buckle up and get confortable:
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FACT-CHECK: Elon Musk Claims His $45 Million/Month Donation To Trump Is “Fake News”?
Time to set the record straight on something….
Last week, news broke that Elon Musk was donating $45 million/month to President Trump.
Then reports gleefully started flowing online that it was NOT true because of Elon saying that was FAKE NEWS from the Wall Street Journal.
Take a look:
NEW: Elon Musk blasts the Wall Street Journal, says he never said he was donating $45 million a month to Donald Trump.
Reporter: “Are you still gonna donate to Trump? Are you still donating $45 million?”
Musk: “At no point did I say that I was donating $45 million a month for… pic.twitter.com/6PCTwiJCm7
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) July 24, 2024
Elon Musk at the US Capitol: "At no point did I say I was donating $45 million dollars a month to Trump. That was a fiction made up by the Wall Street Journal." pic.twitter.com/LPncpFaEVc
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) July 24, 2024
Watch these liberals so gleefully thinking the story is fake:
Here it is!!!
Elon Musk NEVER said he was donating $45M per month to Trump.
It was made up fiction by the Wall Street Journal. pic.twitter.com/eLFcd29BR3
— Sheri™ (@FFT1776) July 24, 2024
Others claim he’s still donating, just not in that amount:
Elon Musk says he never said he was donating $45 million a month to Trump for his campaign. Musk says the Wall Street Journal made up that fiction.
Musk has confirmed he is donating to the Trump campaign just not that number.pic.twitter.com/z7O1qQDzKb
— Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 (@Bubblebathgirl) July 24, 2024
But let me give you the actual truth….
The truth is that Elon is having a lot of fun with people over semantics.
He’s not donating $45 million/month directly to Trump because that violates FEC rules.
You are capped at $3,300/person donation when donating directly.
BUT….you can donate as much as you want to a PAC.
So Elon can truthfully look at the camera and say “Of course it’s Fake News — I’m not donating $45 million/month to Trump.”
And no one on the left is smart enough to parse his words to know what he means.
Here he is explaining it in more detail:
Elon Musk never said that he was donating $45M/month to Trump – that was a totally fake WSJ article.
He just created a Super PAC focused on supporting candidates who favor a meritocracy and personal freedom, but funding to date has been far below that.
— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) July 24, 2024
Elon describes the PAC as MAG (not MAGA) — Make America Greater.
Watch this longer clip of his interview with Jordan Peterson where he gives greater details about how it all works:
Full transcript:
Jordan Peterson: Are you shocked at the fact that you’re donating a substantial amount of money to facilitate Trump’s election? Is that something you would have believed in the realm of possibility, say, five years ago?
Elon Musk: What’s been reported in the media is simply not true. I’m not donating $45 million a month to Trump. What I have done is create a PAC or Super PAC, if you want to call it that, which we simply call the America PAC.
Jordan Peterson: Do you want to tell everybody who’s listening what a PAC is? Because people…
Elon Musk: Oh, it’s a Political Action Committee. It’s a legal entity that can receive funding, and that funding can then be used to help with political campaigns.
Jordan Peterson: Okay, and how does that differ from a direct donation?
Elon Musk: There are specific limits on direct donations to candidates, and the PAC system is a way of putting a political structure in place that sort of runs parallel with the formal political system. You can donate money directly to candidates, but that amount is fairly small. However, you can donate a lot more money to a Political Action Committee or Super PAC. There are various rules that govern the operation of PACs and Super PACs, but they certainly allow for a lot more money in the system than would otherwise be possible.
Jordan Peterson: And these are used on both the Democrat and Republican sides?
Elon Musk: Yes, and I actually think that…
Jordan Peterson: So it’s an open playing field on the PAC side.
Elon Musk: Yes, absolutely.
Jordan Peterson: What are you hoping to accomplish with this? And what’s the PAC called?
Elon Musk: It’s called the America PAC. It’s very easy to remember. The core principles of this American PAC are to promote the principles that made America great in the first place. I wouldn’t say that I’m, for example, MAGA—Make America Great Again. I think America is great. I’m more for making America greater. There are some core pillars, core values that I think have made America great.
Jordan Peterson: Could you elucidate those?
Elon Musk: Yes. One of them is being a meritocracy as much as possible, such that you get ahead as a function of your hard work and skill, and nothing else.
Jordan Peterson: Yes, which is why I would be opposed to, for example, things like DEI. Adrian Wridge documented the fact that the alternative to meritocracy historically is nepotism and dynasty.
Elon Musk: Absolutely. It’s not equity. It’s not equity. Correct. It’s nepotism and dynasty. So that’s very much worth knowing. Meritocracy has its price because it’s a severe judge, but the alternative is nepotism and aristocracy or dynasty.
Jordan Peterson: Okay, so meritocracy. Clearly, America has not been purely a meritocracy, but it has been more of a meritocracy than any other place, which is good.
Elon Musk: That’s good.
Jordan Peterson: Which I regard as good.
Elon Musk: Promoting meritocracy, promoting freedom—freedom to operate, meaning the least amount of government intervention possible. This is important to fight because the natural tendency over time, almost like entropy, is that the hand of government gets heavier every year. Laws and regulations accumulate every year, and these laws and regulations are immortal.
Jordan Peterson: That’s the evil uncle of the king, a very old story. The Egyptians were wrestling with that problem 4,000 years ago.
Elon Musk: Yes, so you have to take an active role in reducing the number of laws and regulations. Otherwise, as more and more rules and regulations are passed, eventually everything becomes illegal, and you start getting into these Orwellian situations where then everyone’s poor and miserable. Where action A is illegal and action B is illegal, and there isn’t anything you can do that is legal. To give an example of some lawfare that was leveled against SpaceX, for example, we were told for many years that we could not hire anyone who was not a permanent resident. SpaceX develops advanced rocket technology, which is considered an advanced weapons technology because it’s a core part of intercontinental ballistic missiles. There are only a handful of things in the sort of highest level of weapon technology, and rocket technology is one of those because we could deliver a payload and bomb anywhere on Earth from anywhere on Earth. So I was told in no uncertain terms by the government that if we hired anyone who was not a permanent resident of the United States, either a green card holder or a citizen, that I would go to prison.
Jordan Peterson: Oh, yeah.
Elon Musk: Because the presumption is that if somebody is not a permanent resident, they will leave the United States and take the rocket technology from SpaceX to countries that could cause harm to the United States.
Jordan Peterson: Pretty solid reasoning, I think.
Elon Musk: And then, a few years ago, the Biden administration decided to sue SpaceX for failing to hire asylum seekers.
Jordan Peterson: Right, right. I remember that.
Elon Musk: We were told on one side that if we hired anyone who was not a permanent resident, we would go to prison. Now we’re told if we don’t hire asylum seekers, who are not people who have been granted asylum but seekers—they aspire to asylum—they are therefore not permanent residents. But if we don’t hire them, we also go to prison.
Jordan Peterson: The purpose of being damned if you do and damned if you don’t is to make damn sure that you’re damned.
Elon Musk: Correct. So that seemed insane and unfair. And why did the Biden administration, because they can only process so many big cases per year, why would the Justice Department, of all the injustices that occur, pick this as one of their biggest cases?
Jordan Peterson: Why? Why do you think?
Elon Musk: I don’t know. There was some lawfare, I think. It was in relation to me, I don’t know all the things, but this was before supporting Trump or anything like that. In fact, I supported Biden, and before that Hillary, and before that Obama.
Jordan Peterson: So that’s why I was asking if this comes as a shock.
Elon Musk: I don’t know. It could just be random. They didn’t tell us why they picked us, why they chose such a crazy lawsuit.
Jordan Peterson: Random is bad. Even if it is random, that’s still bad. That’s just a marker of incompetence. But if it’s not random…
Elon Musk: It seems highly unlikely to be, yes.
Jordan Peterson: And also, why attack SpaceX and not, say, Boeing or Lockheed?
Elon Musk: I think part of it might be that SpaceX is not unionized, and the Democratic Party in the U.S. is fundamentally controlled by the unions. I’m speculating here, but since we’re not unionized, we have a very happy workforce. I’m out there on the factory floor, and I see people are happy. It’s a good vibe. They’re engaged in something ridiculously exciting, at minimum.
Jordan Peterson: That’s not nothing. People can go a long way if they’re part of a project that’s aiming at Mars, let’s say. That’s definitely aiming up. That’s really exciting. That’s a real opportunity for people.
Elon Musk: What do you think of Trump?
Jordan Peterson: I’m not going to… I don’t subscribe to the cult of personality. For me, it’s really just about a choice of administrations, and we have to pick one. I think there are flaws on both sides.
Elon Musk: What do you think his flaws are?
Jordan Peterson: He’s a complicated person, and I’ve been trying to figure him out. Some of the things that look like flaws might be advantages in disguise. He seems to be pretty good at standing up to psychopathic bullies, for example, and that’s a useful skill. You have to be a bit of a monster to manage that, and it isn’t obvious to me how many of the divisive idiosyncrasies of Trump are the mirror image of his capacity to stand up to bullies. That’s a tough call, man. So you’ve obviously decided to lay your efforts down on the side of the Trump administration in the forthcoming election.
Elon Musk: Yes, I would. It’s really… I think we need a change of administration. Many years ago, the Democratic Party was the party of meritocracy and personal freedom. They used to be the free speech party, and these days they seem to be the censorship party under the guise of hate speech. So weirdly, in my view, the Republican Party is actually the meritocracy party because the Democrats are also promoting DEI, which is really just another form of racism and sexism.
Jordan Peterson: It’s the most pernicious form, I think.
Elon Musk: It’s anti-meritocratic. DEI is fundamentally anti-meritocratic. It insists on dividing people by groups as the primary conceptual distinction between individuals—race, ethnicity, sex.
Jordan Peterson: I think the Democratic Party is stoking division. The evidence for that is clear. All this group identity nonsense has made things much more divided. I can see it in Toronto. When my kids grew up in downtown Toronto, I would say they were race, ethnicity, and gender blind. They had an unbelievably diverse range of friends, and no one cared. Even in Toronto, that started to shift around with this emphasis on group division. It’s a really ugly thing to see.
Elon Musk: So my view is that at this point in the United States, the Republican Party is more in line with meritocracy and personal freedom.
Jordan Peterson: I’ve never had a conservative many times with my left-wing friends. They’d refuse to talk to someone, me included, definitely. I’ve invited prominent Democrats to come on my podcast in great numbers for a very long time, and I’ve got absolutely nowhere with that. They’ll talk to me in private, but they will not talk to me in public.
Elon Musk: They’re afraid of being shunned.
Jordan Peterson: Absolutely, 100%. They’ve told me that. It’s not a secret. But that’s never happened on the Republican side. I’ve found it much easier because I’ve talked to a lot of Democrats and a lot of Republicans, and I’ve found it much, much easier to talk to the Republicans. That is somewhat of a shock. I wouldn’t have necessarily expected that.
Elon Musk: I should be clear that I don’t think the Republican Party is flawless. It certainly isn’t. It’s got its issues. There are extremists within the Republican Party that I don’t agree with, but it’s a two-party system essentially. You have to pick one or the other, and so you weigh the good and the bad. In my opinion, the country would be better off with a Republican administration than a Democratic one.
Jordan Peterson: Trump was pretty good at not having wars.
Elon Musk: Yes, which is actually quite a big thing.
Jordan Peterson: It’s really a big thing, and what he did with the Abraham Accords—that was a miracle.
Elon Musk: No, absolutely. He should have got the Nobel Prize for that.
Jordan Peterson: I think there’s something to be said that America needs a strong leader with the perception of strength. You have to admire Trump after getting shot, with blood streaming down his face. It could have been a second shooter, who knows? Nonetheless, he was fist-pumping after being shot. This is not an ordinary guy.
Elon Musk: He’s funny too.
Jordan Peterson: Yes, and he’s brave. He has instinctual courage. It’s not calculated; it’s not some arranged event. It’s in the moment. You can see that because that was not a time when you’re good. You see true courage in the moment.
Elon Musk: Absolutely.
Jordan Peterson: If you want a leader who’s going to deal with some very tough cookies out there—who’s going to deal with Kim Jong-un or China—they will think twice about messing with Trump. And poor Biden can’t make it up the stairs. Nobody’s going to be intimidated by Biden. It’s impossible. But I think they will be intimidated by a guy who was fist-pumping after getting shot. We saw that in his administration because peace did reign, and that was quite… That’s a bit of empirical evidence.
Elon Musk: Can I ask you a little bit about one of the things that you’ve been relatively vocal about, and I understand there’s a personal connection to this as well? For what it’s worth, I’m particularly unhappy with what my colleagues in the psychological field have done with regards to gender-affirming care. I think they are a pack of contemptible cowards, and I think that everyone who’s been involved in this in relation to minors should go to prison.
Elon Musk: I agree.
Jordan Peterson: Okay, why do you agree? What’s your in the water in this particular… This is the worst medical and psychological malpractice I’ve ever seen anywhere, including what I’ve studied in reference to historical atrocities—eugenics, pre-lobotomy, even the sorts of things that were going on in Nazi Germany. At least the bloody Nazis knew it was wrong and tried to hide it.
Elon Musk: Yes.
Jordan Peterson: Okay, so why are you engaged in this particular battle? You said you’re going to move a couple of your company headquarters out of California because of the last legislative move that Gavin Newsom pulled with regards to the trans issue.
Elon Musk: Yes, to be clear, there were many things leading up to that point. It’s not that it’s the one straw; it’s just the final straw.
Jordan Peterson: Okay, so it’s a cumulative issue.
Elon Musk: Fair enough.
Jordan Peterson: It’s a cumulative issue, so it’s not dramatic grandstanding.
Elon Musk: No, and moreover, I had conversations with Gavin Newsom before where I said if you pass legislation like this, if you sign legislation like this, in my view it puts children in danger. I will move my companies out of California. He knew that ahead of time.
Jordan Peterson: Okay, and you’ve talked to him directly about this. What the hell is he doing? I cannot understand. I really cannot understand.
Elon Musk: The Democrats keep pandering to the far left.
Jordan Peterson: Why do the Democrat moderates constantly pander to the far left? I worked with the Democrats in California for five years trying to get them to separate themselves from the far left. They wouldn’t admit that they existed even, and they certainly would never separate from them. They wouldn’t admit, for example, that Antifa even existed.
Elon Musk: Sure.
Jordan Peterson: Burning down buildings. There’s this unbelievable blind spot with regards to the far-left radicals, and the moderate Democrats are, I think, useful idiots fundamentally.
Elon Musk: Going back to the so-called gender-affirming care, which is a terrible euphemism.
Jordan Peterson: That’s for sure.
Elon Musk: It’s really child sterilization.
Jordan Peterson: There’s mutilation too. We want to make sure that amalgam is turned… It’s child mutilation and sterilization under the guise of gender-affirming care and compassion.
Elon Musk: Right.
Jordan Peterson: I can’t imagine anything worse than that.
Elon Musk: Yes, it’s evil. You’re taking kids who are obviously often far below the age of consent…
Jordan Peterson: Confused, miserable.
Elon Musk: Yes, the reality is that almost every child goes through some kind of identity crisis. It’s part of puberty.
Jordan Peterson: Exactly. It’s just part of growing up.
Elon Musk: It’s very possible for adults to manipulate children who are having a natural identity crisis into believing that they are the wrong gender.
Jordan Peterson: Yes.
Elon Musk: That they need to be the other gender, or a girl needs to be a boy or a boy needs to be a girl.
Jordan Peterson: And then that will solve all their problems.
Elon Musk: Yes, and then they give them sterilizing drugs, which are also called puberty blockers. These are sterilization drugs, so they can never have children again.
Jordan Peterson: Yes.
Elon Musk: They can have double mastectomies.
Jordan Peterson: The mutilation.
Elon Musk: Have their forearms stripped to build nonfunctioning penises.
Jordan Peterson: Yes, it’s maob.
Elon Musk: We have an age of consent for a reason. There are ages at which you can do things because if we allow children to take permanent actions when they’re 10, 12, 14 years old, they will do things that they subsequently greatly regret.
Jordan Peterson: Yes, I’ve interviewed a couple of people who’ve done exactly that, and it’s damn painful.
Elon Musk: Why are you willing to make this an issue?
Jordan Peterson: Do you think it happened to one of my older boys, Xavier? This is before I had any real understanding of what was going on. We had co-guardianship, and there was a lot of confusion. I was told, “Oh, he might commit suicide if he…” That was a lie right from the outset. No reliable clinician ever believed that. There was never any evidence for that. If there’s a higher suicide rate, it’s because of the underlying depression and anxiety, not because of the gender dysphoria. Every clinician knows that too, and they’re too cowardly to come out and say it. When I saw that lie start to propagate, it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Elon Musk: Yes.
Jordan Peterson: So you’re telling parents that unless they agree to this radical transformation, their children are going to die. And you think that’s moral and true? That’s so pathological that it’s almost incomprehensible. I can’t imagine anything worse. I can’t imagine a therapist doing anything worse than that, or sitting by idly and remaining silent while his colleagues are doing it. It’s incredibly evil. People promoting this should go to prison.
Elon Musk: It won’t stop until that happens. It’ll just go underground. Puberty blockers are being accessed online by kids all the time through non-medical channels. It’s not going to stop.
Jordan Peterson: So I see. I was coerced into doing this, and it wasn’t explained to me that puberty blockers are sterilization drugs. I lost my son essentially. They call it deadnaming for a reason.
Elon Musk: Yes.
Jordan Peterson: The reason it’s called deadnaming is because your son is dead. My son Xavier is dead, killed by the woke mind virus.
Elon Musk: I’m sorry to hear that.
Jordan Peterson: I can’t imagine what that would be like.
Elon Musk: There are lots of people in that situation now.
Jordan Peterson: It’s not pretty.
Elon Musk: Lots of demolished kids.
Jordan Peterson: Yes. That’s a good reason to be the final straw.
Elon Musk: So I vow to destroy the woke mind virus after that. We’re making some progress.
Jordan Peterson: Join the club.
Here was our original report, which has proven to be 100% accurate:
BREAKING: Elon Musk To Donate $45 Million To President Trump…..PER MONTH!
They have awoken a sleeping giant….
Before they tried to assassinate a sitting President, Elon Musk had previously said he did not plan to make an endorsement in this election.
Then just minutes after they tried to take President Trump’s life, Musk reversed course and Tweeted that he fully endorses President Trump and hopes for his rapid recovery:
ELON MUSK: “I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery”
Now he's taken it to another level.
Late this afternoon, news just broke that Elon Musk has committed to donate $45 MILLION to President Trump.
Oh that would be impressive on it's own, but I left out one detail.....he said $5 million PER MONTH!
Unsure if July and November are counted or not but at a minimum that seems to be 3-4 months x $45 million and....you do the math!
WOW!
Joey Mannarino did the math and came up with over $150 million!
The media is reporting that @ElonMusk is planning to donate $45 million a month until the election to get Trump re-elected to the White House.
That's over $150 million by the time November comes.
Absolute LEGEND.
He spent $44,000,000,000 to turn Twitter into X and give us free… pic.twitter.com/q5vAeZpOta
— Joey Mannarino (@JoeyMannarinoUS) July 16, 2024
Oh and it's not just Elon alone.
He's started a Super PAC and he's bringing in his inner circle.
So in addition to Elon's $150 million, you can add X-millions from all his rich friends.
BOOM!
BREAKING : ELON MUSK AND HIS ALLIES HAVE STARTED A NEW SUPER PAC WORKING TO RE ELECT DONALD TRUMP
ELON MUSK WILL DONATE $45 MILLION DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE MONTH TO THIS NEW GROUP
THE GROUP CALLED AMERICA PAC, IS FUNDED BY ELON MUSK AND HIS INNER CIRCLE PER NYT & WSJ pic.twitter.com/0jjs9WX7fe
— GURGAVIN (@gurgavin) July 16, 2024
Reuters confirms:
Billionaire Elon Musk has said he plans to commit around $45 million a month to a new pro-Trump super PAC, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the matter.
Musk has reportedly contributed to the America PAC. However, the South Africa born entrepreneur was not listed on a Monday filing by the group, which shows that it has raised more than $8 million.
Lonsdale Enterprises and the Winklevoss Twins were among the donors. Lonsdale donated $1 million and Cameron and Tyler Winklesvoss each contributed $250,000.
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ELON MUSK: "I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery"
God bless you Elon Musk.
After dancing around a direct endorsement, Elon Musk just came out and fully endorsed President Trump .
THIS ENTIRE NATION STANDS BEHIND OUR RIGHTFUL PRESIDENT.
TRUMP LANDSLIDE VICTORY INCOMING.
I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery pic.twitter.com/ZdxkF63EqF
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 13, 2024
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